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Site: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model
Nuke CopsNuke Cops has in agreement with Francisco Burzi (nukelite) the author of PHP-Nuke to work together in the evolution of the PHP-Nuke CMS. Nuke Cops will now officially continue development of the following modules for the CMS: Forums, Private Messaging, and Journal.

In addition, we shall continue to build on our previous successes in the areas of bug fixes and security patches while working even more closely with Francisco. and are both moving together as the best of friends in a professional arena on a global scale.

In addition, from a previous article with Francisco's blessings, we will also continue to offer a special bundle of PHP-Nuke. Such additional items include:

-LDAP authentication
-Corporate grade calendar sharing module
-Web Space for Members

Nuke Cops is currently undergoing a wonderful evolution in our staffing and support to the users of PHP-Nuke.

We will be offering new tools to report and track bugs, and projects. We will also be offering a 24/7 live support online.

In addition, we are restructuring our team to resemble a business environment where the following roles have been identified and will need to be filled over time (some are filled):

- project manager
- module developer
- security code patcher
- document specialist
- hosts that offer forum support
- dedicated news admin
- dedicated downloads admin
- management
- super user admin
- server admin
- community outreach specialist
- abuse specialist

We'll also be assembling special teams that cover:

- new ideas
- AUP enforcement
- greivance committee

Others include decisions on who gets to become an authentic Elite Nuker, or even a staff member.

Elite Nukers at Nuke Cops are considered "Staff", without actual site responsibilities outside of being:

- nuke experts
- people who want to help others on site

Typically we seek staff from this elite group of members.

And the number one thing that has made us grow and see nearly 2 million page hits in under 6 months (and 2000 plus registered users in the same time) is:

- respect for each other

Yes, even though we are the staff and elite nukers, we pride ourselves in developing and helping the community with respect and sincerity.

And we will continue this to all new levels.

Nuke Cops believes that PHP-Nuke is the best solution out there for content management. One of the best reasons why, romantically speaking, is this product has drawn a cult like following. And we pride ourselves in being its greatest fans.

Nuke Cops staff is team focused. Even though roles are well defined, we believe in cross-functional team work.

Current most senior in management and owner is Zhen-Xjell, and then Chatserv. Today, Raven has been promoted to Site Admin (third most senior) from Site Moderator. In the days to come, more promotions will be announced at Nuke Cops.

To succeed in life, sometimes its best to take baby steps with patience and clear mind.

We value our friendship with Francisco and stand behind him as a human being. Thanks Francisco for being our friend and for creating such a valuable system.

And for the record, we do support versions 6.6 and 6.7.
Posted on Sunday, June 08 @ 22:36:52 CEST by Zhen-Xjell
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Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by chatserv on Sunday, June 08 @ 22:51:48 CEST
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Zhen has said it all, so i'd like to send out my congrats to our new site admin Raven, cheers my friend. I am very well pleased at everything expressed by Zhen and i'd like to add personally to the list that in the following days i will release a nukesql.php script for PHP-Nuke 6.7 (or the one available at that moment) and for those wondering the sec-fix patch will continue to be available whenever there is a need.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by jimmyjimjim on Sunday, June 08 @ 23:06:17 CEST
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Wow… Nukecops is by definition an enigma. IMHO: You are more dedicated, more project oriented, and better spoken on the entire subject of php-nuke. This is a move I would not have expected. Good luck with your new venture!

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by silvrrwulf on Sunday, June 08 @ 23:23:11 CEST
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So I suppose the "freenuke" movement is dead?

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by Master-V on Sunday, June 08 @ 23:24:03 CEST
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Well, in all honesty, I think freenuke was a 100% better Idea. I still love this site and all that it stands for but serious competition would have made the whole Nuke community better. There are other Nuke forks, but most are not that great. I was hoping NukeCops would start a serious fork, one that would make PHP-Nuke step up and perform better as well. Now that you have semi-merged, who knows what will happen next. Microsoft Nuke? JK

As I said, I love this site, I respect all the people on it and at, and I plan on being here to support the new developments. Perhaps, I was just a little disappointed.


Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by MikeMiles on Monday, June 09 @ 00:43:54 CEST
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This is the big story you kept putting off and wanting everyone to wait for? What a huge disappoinment this is to me. I can see why AI left now. Well, I'm off as well to look at other CMS' as I will not continue using something run by an egotistical maniac who charges for bug and security fixes. If you plan on sharing in FB's club revenues or charging extra money for the parts you assumed, you're already off on the wrong foot by not telling people this right upfront.

It takes way more than just organizing yourselves into a business structure. It takes someone with leadership qualities and a good business sense. FB has neither of these. Your need to continue remaining as followers shows you lack confidence in yourselves and probably don't have these two most important qualities.

Best of luck. I will still stop by but only to check out third party addons which I can use and integrate into another CMS. There are plenty of others just as good or even better than this one. They don't charge for fixes and don't have new releases coming out every month or less which btw makes it extremely tough to maintain a site. The only thing which disguishes PhpNuke from the others is its addons and I can always have these ported over.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by charlyt on Monday, June 09 @ 03:54:12 CEST
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I hope this cooperation with FB will bring important improovements in nuke base design.

  • grouped user- and rightsmanagement 3rdparty module designers can use (extend) without tweaking the core

  • improoved strategy for updating the core to new versions

  • a core design which is stable, reliable and secure

  • a core design which is able to incorporate complex modules without tweaking the core

  • specified strategy for installing and uninstalling modules and blocks including database changes

IMO these are the main reasons that drove interested persons to other nuke forks - a stable core and new guidelines will give all these wounderful module designers the chance to provide excellent functions.
Don't miss the chance to lead a wellknown product to an excellent one
Good Luck !

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by FreeBeerIsCool on Monday, June 09 @ 05:02:52 CEST
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"Version 6.7 with lots of fixes thanks to Nukecops... ENTER THE CLUB AND GET IT!"

Good job lining his wallet. You do the work, he'll get paid for it.

FB $1, NC 0

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by dmolavi on Monday, June 09 @ 08:23:17 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message)'s AI's take on the matter: (the first article)..he doesn't say much, but it speaks volume's on NC 'policy'...

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by bazzer on Monday, June 09 @ 08:41:03 CEST
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Oh dear, what a shame.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by Atoum on Monday, June 09 @ 10:03:25 CEST
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That is the worst news I've read in weeks. Personnaly I'm going with AI and Freenuke, cause I'm FOR OS, FOR 100% free ressources on GNU licence, AGAINST FB's philosophy and AGAINST the club.

Seems like NukeCops have made their choice, AI has made his, now it's time for us to make ours.

Mine is set: go for it AI.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by gangreen on Monday, June 09 @ 10:18:48 CEST
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I think you guys are being a little naive. Personally, I think FB made a big mistake in trying to do everything himself. I think that phpnuke will drop into relative obscurity over the coming months, unfortunately, as there are other alternatives now that are free and better programmed.

I'm sorry to see that efforts will go on here supporting the closed project, payable per month.Ah well, will see most of you elsewhere...

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by baloo on Monday, June 09 @ 10:51:12 CEST
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So what does this mean ?

NC will support the releases FB charges for ? So people unwilling to pay will be left high and dry ?

Or are we going to start seeing Nuke 6.x which is also available as NC 6.5 SPx ?

What will be the future ? Because quite frankly, if you continue to develop and support on release that are only available through club membership then I think you have sold yourselves, and everyone who supported "freenuke" out very very easily.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by dmolavi on Monday, June 09 @ 11:00:52 CEST
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Want to gripe and complain? Read this [], and post your thoughts here []

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by chatserv on Monday, June 09 @ 11:30:18 CEST
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While i have no plans on starting a flame war (which is what some seem to be building up) i will just add that had anyone taken a closer look at's latest added downloads and read 6.7's release notes you would realize that the fixes we (NukeCops) provided for 6.7 are available for anyone using 6.5, it's called sec-fix patch 3 and yes, it has been available for quite some time. It has always been our (and my) tendency to release or provide fixes for bugs and security issues whenever one is found, if anyone actually believes we are only providing fixes for "club only" versions of Nuke then you are sadly mistaken.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 2, Interesting)
by Raven on Monday, June 09 @ 12:31:05 CEST
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As with ChatServ and the rest of the management here, I have no desire to enter into a flame war. Emotions and opinions are running high right now and that can be exciting and help get things moving in a constructive or destructive course. Several good forks have started over the past months/years, but they have only gained a small audience, regardless of their good intents and quality of people involved. PHPNuke constantly survives with an overwhelming user base. That's not to say that another one would take the same course or that it shouldn't be done. As I pondered which course to take recently, I asked myself what would benefit the nuke community the most, not just a small group or myself. I, as well as the rest of the staff at NC, truly desire to support the nuke community, especially in areas that have been neglected, regardless of by whom, or for what reasons. Can we please everybody? Of course not and we wouldn't pretend that we can. However, does starting a new fork, which almost surely will go the course of the others, help to divide the community or bring it together? For the good of the community, this site exists and we trust will grow stronger. We all have our personal agreements/objections to the philosophies of FB, NC, and others. But, the course that ZX has outlined, I believe, in the long run, will be the one that will survive. As to fixes, support, and the like, we are figuring that all out now and will give more information as soon as we can. We have promised to deliver the best support anywhere and we will. If you feel you need to use another fork or CMS, then we wish you the best of luck!

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 2, Insighful)
by Hajduk on Monday, June 09 @ 13:34:29 CEST
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Congrats NC guys. I think this CMS will survive where the others failed and are failing. Keep up the good work, most of us who do apreciate are to busy to post.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 2, Interesting)
by chatserv on Monday, June 09 @ 13:50:37 CEST
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Feel i should clarify an issue or two, first off, FreeNuke was AI's idea and he posted about it without first checking with everyone else (at least not that i know of), his opinions and views were his and his alone and not an official NukeCops view or stance. i only mention this because many quote his FN posts are being those of NukeCops, nothing further from the truth, as for anyone being a silent observer, go back to said posts and count my pro or anti FN replies, found any? I myself wish only the best of luck to AI, he's done nothing to me personally and i have no problems with him or anyone else for that matter. NukeCops is a Nuke support site and will remain as such, many feel we will leave them in the dark, why should we when all we've done since the start is try to provide you all with fixes, hacks and patches? If you feel that nothing NukeCops as a team, any of the team members on his own, or i have done has helped you in any way then i'm sorry to hear that but i know for a fact that a vast group of people have found answers to their questions both here and at the places we help at or run ourselves, we do the best we can and as Zhen said we have the drive and the passion for Nuke which makes us work even harder.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and i will not put down any such opinion expressed here or elsewhere but i am entitled to mine as well and while it may not always be the most popular at least i back everything i get involved with and try as hard as i can to help out as many people as time will allow, my post count at several sites is proof of that, i don't post just to build up my post count, i only do so when i feel i can add something useful to what might be discussed in any of the places i post at.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by jbsarma on Monday, June 09 @ 14:19:13 CEST
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We donot need one more new Nuke fork - that is for sure. Let the ones already born flourish so that we get different options to choose from according to our need and test. But we certainly need a nicely packaged PHPNuke version with as many great modules, blocks and themes assembled and implemented.

But I do strinly feel that AI should have been persuaded to stay becasue he did not do anything wrong in his outburst against FB - he was asking for it by his outrageous activitivities. FB should know PHPNuke is successful only because of so many modules are available contributed by so many people and support sites like NC.

I also fail to understand why we need so many versions of PHPNuke coming up in quick successions. Is one real step forward in a year (ok half a year perhaps) is not sufficient.

There are many other CMS that are fast catching up. I am playing with right now with Envolution which is great but lacks in choices of modules. FB cannot afford to be unmindful of users anger.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by afc on Monday, June 09 @ 14:19:25 CEST
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How can you come from Free Nuke 2 weeks ago to this posted on and are both moving together as the best of friends in a professional arena on a global scale.

That a huge move from starting your own CMS to going along with with FB

I dont see why FB charges for updated, maybe he "Money Hungry"

I think the community should get togeather and have teams work on each part of CMS

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by dsnail2000 on Monday, June 09 @ 14:20:53 CEST
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"In addition, from a previous article with Francisco's blessings, we will also continue to offer a special bundle of PHP-Nuke. Such additional items include:

-LDAP authentication
-Corporate grade calendar sharing module
-Web Space for Members"

This special bundle, will it be free or will you start charging for it? Just wondering about those specifics of your agreement with FB.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by Moon- on Monday, June 09 @ 17:22:33 CEST
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Very disappointed to read this.

I had been a paying club member until resent events, I was planing on shifting that support to Nuke Cops.

But with Public releases, Club releases, Enhanced releases, Private releases, Leaked releases and the compatibility issues, I can only see more problems down the road for Nuke and the community.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by allevon on Monday, June 09 @ 17:57:08 CEST
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Holy Crap! You mean I missed all this debating today. Bummer. Well Im in favor of the idea. Better to join in than fight it. Things Must Evolve.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by nobleclem on Monday, June 09 @ 18:31:25 CEST
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I would just like to as a user of PHP-Nuke for a few months now agree with ZX that if you dont like NC's deciscion then dont grip about it .... leave.... go somewhere else.... If I have griped about FB's decision then well lets say I have learned that it doenst help anything by being destructive... I would just like to say that I plan on sticking around till I find something better OR till I stop doing webstuff... So good luck to all and their directions... I am sure we all hope the best for AI, NC, FB and all the nuke forks... but maybe some good things will come out of all this... I have never seen any great things get far without seeing problems... this is just a road bump that I hope will lead the PHP-Nuke project to great things...

Just remember for those who dont admin sites or for those who dont code.... if you dont remember anything all I ask is that you rememeber this:

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by weirdwx on Tuesday, June 10 @ 00:24:57 CEST
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I am glad to see some movement in the Nuke community.So far it seems to be in the positive direction.But of course more info is needed!

We have formed the Open Source Nuke Project at

We hope this will also help the Nuke community to get even stronger.

OSNP also offers to NC and FB hosting support forums,testing sites etc..

Hope we can work together to make the Nuke community the best it can be!


Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by dmolavi on Tuesday, June 10 @ 09:33:01 CEST
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here is a note from the guys at NSN (from AI's website):

Re: Pre-Announcement of ZX's decision (Score: 1)
by BobMarion on Monday, June 09 @ 21:16:11 BST
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Don't know if you would be interested or not AI but NSN (NukeScripts Network) is preparing a fork of Nuke. It already has SourceForge project approval :) Let me know what you are thinking of a fork and maybe we could join together and improve the improvements we are both planning. I would have contacted you directly but I am on vacation at this time and do not have my personnal addressbook with me.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by vert on Tuesday, June 10 @ 08:40:18 CEST
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NukeCops, NukeScriptsN and thousands of users are caused of Php-Nuke popularity and advantages. Many people have given to Francisco ideas and their work because it was totally for free. Now when Francisco charges for so elementary things like bugs fixes, the support from users can be over. I think that php-nuke belongs to his users. Francisco is a dictator who frightens us all by saying that he will not continue work on php-nuke. Let's say stop. Don't pay him for our own work ! Php-nuke will never die, even when Francisco somehow will leave it. The hole in the I-net will be fast filed up. Php-nuke on this stage requires team like have phpMyAdmin, phpAdsNew and more… Francisco- You have shown who you are, it's time to say goodbye…

We will have war, or war already has begun and this war is different because it's between users and Francisco. Community can't be more divided but we can always integrate. Integrating people from NukeCops, NukeScripts and form other sites even with guys from Post-nuke by building great team which could make the most amazing CMS on the whole world. Let's try again when Francisco forces us to do it. We have IDEA to build free, professional CMS; we have potential, we only must get organized. The list of roles which is in this news it's a good start…

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by Mesum on Wednesday, June 11 @ 00:29:51 CEST
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I have been a paid club member from the day one... But after reading all this, I think this will be my last month for that club.... hell, I still have using 6.0 but I wanted to support the open source and real meanings of "sharing the source" but really don't see that happening, to those who are upset and NC or FB, you are just wasting your time, both parties are old and mature, they know what they are doing, no matter what you say, they will do what they want to.

Re: The Official Nuke Cops Business Model (Score: 1)
by pajucki on Wednesday, May 19 @ 23:30:30 CEST
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As a rookie here, a don't have a great deal of insight into what's taking place with the sale of the site, other than to say I hope that this open source business model, or most of what was laid out in the model, doesn't perish with this nuke cop community in the sale.

I haven't had a huge need for help until recently when security became more of an issue for me, but I've always found what I needed here, or a reference to a community member's project work/web site/forum advice.

Thanks to all here for creating such an invaluble resource.

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