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OSCommerce as a Nuke and PostNuke-Module - Vote today! |
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Posted on Tuesday, July 01 @ 06:52:09 CEST by [RETIRED]Raven |
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Re: OSCommerce as a Nuke and PostNuke-Module - Vote today! (Score: 1)
by HotPoppa on Tuesday, July 01 @ 09:14:34 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | After reading a couple of Posts on thier foruml, they seem intent on ignoring this idea. I for one would love it.
Even if thier was just a quick port to get the users from nuke over to the osCommerce format so that they would not have to register all over.
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Re: OSCommerce as a Nuke and PostNuke-Module - Vote today! (Score: 1)
by sixonetonoffun (sixonetonoffun@spammenot.com) on Tuesday, July 01 @ 11:01:41 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | I don't think it will happen unless someone puts it up as a contribution. Oldpa has released a 6.0 nuke with integration. He also developed an unreleased 6.5 version and a xoops and phpbb version. His demos
http://oldpa.adsldns.org/
The phpbb version is what I used to create http://glowoptics.com/
and have made the files available here http://mxoscphpbb.nukedwebtree.com/
(alpha2 will be up tommorrow so don't bother with the current files)
Also phpnukeservices.com sells a version for nuke6/6.5 though updates and developement appear to be very slow.
Its not real difficult to work with oscommerce the directory structures just a little less modular then nuke and its clones. Splitting the registration process so it updates nukes user tables and osc is all it would really take to get a rough integration. |
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Re: OSCommerce as a Nuke and PostNuke-Module - Vote today! (Score: 1)
by HotPoppa on Tuesday, July 01 @ 11:47:50 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | Rough integration would be okay, but imagine running it with full theme support, journals, modules, links, and Forums...
Now that would be awesome.
I have played around with osCommerce and have seriously thought about using it for a business idea I have, but if it could integrate into nuke....
I think this deserves a forum discussion here...
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Re: OSCommerce as a Nuke and PostNuke-Module - Vote today! (Score: 1)
by MikeMiles on Tuesday, July 01 @ 20:50:46 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | Envolution and Xaraya are forks of PostNuke so they probably support pnAPI for backward compatibility. Those two also have their own unique APIs. phpNuke and Xoops and other CMS' do not support pnAPI. Yes, it would be nice if there was a common interface API agreed to be used by all open source projects so one could easily plug and play different modules and blocks across each without so much recoding and hacking. The developers are far more interested though in their own little kingdoms rather than the real end user. As a result, each one tries to build itself into doing things beyond its scope rather than focusing on its particular strengths and drawing upon the strengths of other projects.
BTW, don't ever go into someone else's house and tell them they are doing it all wrong and that most of their code is unnecessary and expect them to roll out the welcome mat. OSCommerce caters to a much broader audience than just PostNuke and its two forks. Many of its users don't run any CMS'. For these types of intercommunity ideas, it would be far better if the main developers did the liaison instead. |
Re: OSCommerce as a Nuke and PostNuke-Module - [long] (Score: 1)
by stevepurkiss on Wednesday, July 02 @ 12:06:14 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | Hello,
I read the thread over at OSCommerce and it prompted me to write a rather long reply which I think is worthy of posting here after reading MikeMiles' comment on this forum, so here it is:
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I used to work for a company who spent years building a J2EE web app development platform with many of the features *nukes have, along with store functionality. They burnt through $5m of funding without selling much and went bust last year, and I've learned many lessons from this, so I'd like to put my point of view (free world et al.).
Take a couple of loosely relevant examples from Primesense's ten top Sales & Marketing steps to business oblivion:
* Try to ensure that nobody within the organisation ever actually talks to customers, particularly the management team or the marketing department. Encourage the belief that with the amount of knowledge and experience you've got on the team, asking real customers what they want is an unnecessary luxury. You may need to make an exception for the sales-force, or people will get suspicious, but this isn't a problem as sales people very rarely communicate anything useful back into the organisation anyway
* Don't segment your customer base. Treat all your customers exactly the same - never mind how large or small they are, what problems they have, or what their value is to your business. Make sure nobody tries to measure the profitability of different customer groups, or somebody might cotton on to the fact that most of your profit comes from a limited number of customers and suggest that you focus resources on retaining and developing them. This could have serious ramifications, prolonging the life of your company by several years.
* Move everybody out of marketing and into product development. Make sure nobody's responsible for finding out whether there's any demand for what you 're developing. If anybody questions this, just tell them that 'Great products make their own markets' and 'Nobody every developed breakthrough products by asking customers what they want'. If they really press the point, put a group of your product managers into a workshop for a day and ask them to produce a market demand forecast. That should prove conclusively that there is a sizable opportunity out there, just waiting to be seized.
Now with the above points in mind, take my position - I've been trying to decide which content management/portal/appdev platform to adopt for my clients existing and prospective as I don't want to write stuff from scratch, and I don't want to learn more than one CMS inside out, but when I read threads like these sometimes I wonder if I should bother at all with any of them.
For example, I have a client who is a reseller of digital content, mainly PDFs. They need supplier logins so suppliers can upload new products, alter pricing, etc. They also have a very complex pricing structure which depends on what subscription a user or company has bought, and in the latter case they want companies to be able to manage their own accounts - i.e. add users, see reports, etc.
I thought to myself 'OSCommerce, that looks great', but then it doesn't have the complex subscriber functionality I need, and as their site is also a community site I thought it would take too much customisation to be a viable proposition. Now I'm thinking more on the lines of integrating DreamAccount from DreamCost with PostNuke, XOOPS, or Xaraya (as it has mods for these) - it deals with subscriptions and I can write the pricing module myself.
But then I look at PostNuke and find out the main developers have left for Xaraya, so I download that and man is it complicated - maybe I'm just thick, but it's not easy to use (I know it's still in Beta, but can't find any user docs anywhere). I've written a module for PostNuke before, and it's not pretty, which is why I looked at the OO designed XOOPS. XOOPS looks good, but then I read about Xaraya lead developer sa
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