I like what I see of phpNuke, with some exceptions, which is part of the nature of this post. This is another piece of German Software, much like Wbb2 (WoltLab) which I'm presently experimenting with on my Web Site.
My nightmare has been with Wbb2, lack of English documentation, especially for the Admin., functions. I do not speak or read German, nor do I have the time to translate hundreds of pages in German to English, even though I have Systran for minor purposes where needed.
I've looked at the official site for phpNuke, and the only docs I see are in German. I've also noticed that installation instructions, that are in English, assume that a newbie, (not brain-dead) understands needed details that are left out.
The instructions are not in a step by step format, with explanations as to what each function of that step requires the newbie do; Or what FTP program (for example) or phpMyAdmin functions to perform.
I see hundreds of message posts, not just here, but on every other forum I look at, with the laments, of "this didn't work" or "that didn't work" and then post after post of interactive help trying to solve a problem, that should never have occurred, had the Doc's or Instructions been more clear.
And I'm not speaking of "bugs" here or security issues, that will ALWAYS be part of any software program.
One direct question regarding this present page, why doesn't it fit properly into a browser window? Few things are as annoying as having to scroll back and forth to see an entire page!
Soooo...do I get myself into another nightmare with phpNuke, and wasted hours and weeks of hunting through thousands of posts looking for simple explanations, because I don't read German....or IS NUKE different??
Now you can beat on me all you like.
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nathanraymond Premium
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Location: Rhode Island
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Sat Jul 26, 2003 11:54 am
hmm most of the sites that do offer help and tutorials are in english...and the german sites are usually one step behind only becuae the mojor changes and corrections are from a english based project...
what are you asking I only see two questions
IS NUKE different??
and
One direct question regarding this present page, why doesn't it fit properly into a browser window?
(the last question I have no idea why...my window is perfect)
so the first question "is nuke different?" than what?
hmm most of the sites that do offer help and tutorials are in english...and the German sites are usually one step behind only becuae the mojor changes and corrections are from a english based project...
That is exactly what I mean, I can spend days and weeks reading post after post, for HELP and TUTORIALS that are in English, but I'm talking about Documentation for every single FUNCTION phpNuke uses, and an explanation for it's purpose, and I'm not talking about FAQ's for what a Emoticons is for.
This entire site is run from the "back-door" or Admin Functions, for setup, and operation, and if those Doc's do not exist, then we can spend months on a forum, asking "what's this do" or "what's that for."
As for fitting in my browser window, it would IF the "frames" on the left of the page were not there.
And yes I have the link you posted, and the Doc's that are up for download are in German, not English, as I stated already in my original message, so all of this is a repeat!
phpNuke is NOT an English based project, it's a project that was done in German, by the Author who admits his English is not great, and also, no longer responds to email.
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nathanraymond Premium
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Location: Rhode Island
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Sat Jul 26, 2003 12:52 pm
ok maybe you have frames I dont...
and do you mean
Version Française du plus célèbre Portail Open Source: PHP-Nuke de Francisco Burzi. Avec toutes les fonctions de gestion de communauté, de membres, d\'articles, de catégories, de forums, de sondage, etc. Tout pour un portail complet.
Location: Arizona (USA) Site Admin: Lenon.com Admin: Disipal Designs
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Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:22 pm
JG wrote:
...One direct question regarding this present page, why doesn't it fit properly into a browser window? Few things are as annoying as having to scroll back and forth to see an entire page...
Soooo...do I get myself into another nightmare with phpNuke...or IS NUKE different??
The answer to your first question is it's just a matter of personal preference. Some guys like their site to have fixed dimensions. Personally, I like my site to 'squeeze.' My site will frame properly all the way down to 640x480. Each to his own. When you have your Nuke site up and running, this is something you'll have to decide for yourself.
The answer to the next question is there is PHP-Nuke and then there's everything else. It's like Coca-Cola. PHP-Nuke is 'The Real Thing.' Everything else is a weak imitation. You won't have a problem finding an answer to your PHP-Nuke question[s] --- guaranteed!
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Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:31 pm
JG wrote:
...I can spend days and weeks reading post after post, for HELP and TUTORIALS that are in English, but I'm talking about Documentation for every single FUNCTION phpNuke uses, and an explanation for it's purpose, and I'm not talking about FAQ's for what a Emoticons is for...
Well, you've probably already seen this site, but I find it to be the best place to get a quick 'n' dirty explanation of the underpinnings of PHP-Nuke. Check it out, if you haven't already:
Version Française du plus célèbre Portail Open Source: PHP-Nuke de Francisco Burzi. Avec toutes les fonctions de gestion de communauté, de membres, d\'articles, de catégories, de forums, de sondage, etc. Tout pour un portail complet.
French version of the most famous Open Gate Source: PHP-Nuke de Francisco Burzi. With all the functions of management of community, members, d\' articles, categories, forums, of survey, etc. All for a complete gate.
I suppose French is a second language?
あなたが私に話したければ私は試みの英語仮定する!
I ask serious questions regarding an excellent piece of software, looking for reasonable answers, not language games!
FYI!
PHPNuke Documentation: More than 120 Pages about installation, configuration and use of phpnuke. At the moment it is only available in german, but the newer documentations will be translated in near future:
Other documentations:
PHPNuke Tables: The different tables in the phpnuke database and their meaning (german)
Admin modules: How to program your own admin modules (german)
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Location: Cherry Hill, N.J.
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Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:01 pm
VinDSL wrote:
JG wrote:
...One direct question regarding this present page, why doesn't it fit properly into a browser window? Few things are as annoying as having to scroll back and forth to see an entire page...
Soooo...do I get myself into another nightmare with phpNuke...or IS NUKE different??
The answer to your first question is it's just a matter of personal preference. Some guys like their site to have fixed dimensions. Personally, I like my site to 'squeeze.' My site will frame properly all the way down to 640x480. Each to his own. When you have your Nuke site up and running, this is something you'll have to decide for yourself.
The answer to the next question is there is PHP-Nuke and then there's everything else. It's like Coca-Cola. PHP-Nuke is 'The Real Thing.' Everything else is a weak imitation. You won't have a problem finding an answer to your PHP-Nuke question[s] --- guaranteed!
Thank you for your reply!!! As long as I can make the changes, I don't have a problem, and I can agree, there seems to be more support, and the only other one I saw with this much was YaBBS, but has the worst Admin section I've seen.
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JG Sergeant
Joined: Jul 26, 2003
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Location: Cherry Hill, N.J.
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Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:05 pm
VinDSL wrote:
JG wrote:
...I can spend days and weeks reading post after post, for HELP and TUTORIALS that are in English, but I'm talking about Documentation for every single FUNCTION phpNuke uses, and an explanation for it's purpose, and I'm not talking about FAQ's for what a Emoticons is for...
Well, you've probably already seen this site, but I find it to be the best place to get a quick 'n' dirty explanation of the underpinnings of PHP-Nuke. Check it out, if you haven't already:
It's the only Nuke 'tutorial' I get anything out of. For all the rest of it I depend on places like this and Google...
Thanks again for a decent answer , and I'll check out the link. That one I missed.
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Location: Rhode Island
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Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:34 pm
no I dont speak french...but I think Francisco Burzi (quebec--i think--- nukelite---)does but the google translator definately doesnot...lol that you can see yourself...no idea what the asian stuff is not sure why you posted that...language games and all. The only reason I answered you in german was you talked about translating all this stuff from german to english...well if you dont speak german you just cant translate whole documents quickly so I thought maybe you did speak a little german- lots of people here do.
And of course german but that is not the point and I sent you the link
the only reason that there are the downloads in german is that there were so many requests by german users of phpnuke that these were posted and what happened was that a lot of phpnuke sites (german ) were formed
Netz-ID.de
Unser Portal für Webmaster, mehr als 4000 Besucher pro Tag
Nukeforums.de
Das Forum für Webmaster, mehr als 3000 Besucher pro Ta
PHP-CMS.com
OSS PHP CMS in einer Übersicht, mehr als 1000 Besucher pro Tag
PHPNuke.de
Die Startseite zu PHPNuke.de, mehr als 1000 Besucher pro Tag
Nukedownloads.org
Das Downloadverzeichnis für Webmaster, mehr als 2000 Besucher pro Tag
Homepage-Tutorials.de
Das 2F Tutorial Archiv, mehr als 1000 Besucher pro Tag
Bussgeldkatalog-Online.de
Das Portal für Autofahrer, mehr als 2000 Besucher pro Tag
That was where I began, the search regarding my original question and comments in order to avoid what I've already dealt with..for weeks.
The first thing I went for at the OFFICIAL site, was the Doc's. I'll repeat it once more; And also look into the other sites you posted.
Quote:
PhpNuke Documentation: More than 120 Pages about installation, configuration and use of phpnuke. At the moment it is only available in German, but the newer documentations will be translated in near future:
Other documentations:
PHPNuke Tables: The different tables in the phpnuke database and their meaning (german)
Admin modules: How to program your own admin modules (german)
Now if they are the OFFICIAL site, and only offer German doc's, then I'm forced to do what was necessary with WoltLab, run all over the place for help like an idiot, or translate it myself....and for something that should be a part of the software that is being submitted to an English speaking community.
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