Google - puting phpnuke feature in REAL-Html files!

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

Okay we all know about Google tap and similar packages but I have a feeling Google is catching up with it? And doesn't like it!!!!!!!! I heard they class PHPNUKE as spamming???

Is there a way to place phpnuke features (news, topics, downloads, etc) into a real-html file!! So I can create a reall homepage like phpnuke fronpage.

So my real question is, is there a module (add-on) out there that can create real-html files and with real html code as you would create in Dreamweaver?
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Another question: does google only display three links a month from PHPnuke not from real-html, swf, etc. in its directory?

Thank you in advance. Wink

Site Admin Joined: Aug 17, 2003 Posts: 12397

Well you could set .html files to be executed through PHP on your server. And then just rename all the appropriate scripts and change the code from .php to .html

But it will have the same effect as GoogleTap, it is a server-side solution.

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

Thanks for the quick reply! Laughing

Do you agree that Google doesn't like php-nuke, if you added your site after a certain time frame, say 1-2+ years-ago?

**Edit*******, Already done.

Also just a note for google hackers (not hacking in modern terms, programming) use a text browser like this ! http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html

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Do you think I could create a module or windows based program to do this automated (.bat, phpnuke) with a framed html index file? And then use googletap with extension"/" and "sub.domain.com" not ".html"

~~~~I do have some coding background, not allot~~~

Or could you help me! I guess it wouldn't have to be created in secret as what could Google do with a real-html file! I guess all the small features would have to be dynamically produced onto the html file to STOP GoogleBOT identifying anything similar (like spamming)?

Wink

N1

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

by the way nice site!!!

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

OKAY SCRAP WHAT I SAID ABOVE EXCEPT THE MODULE

The only quick solution i see is to save the page on IE!! and name the file as something your are going to use again! I.E. sitemap.html and make sure the robot let it search for it!

I forgot PHP is the same as HTML just with the coding!!

Would adding html text lines into the php make it more searchable

Code:

?>
<html>
<center>

</center>
</html>
<?php

Sorry for the stupid message.

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

Google

Quote:

Your pages are dynamically generated. We're able to index dynamically generated pages. However, because our web crawler could overwhelm and crash sites that serve dynamic content, we limit the number of dynamic pages we index. In addition, our crawlers may suspect that a URL with many dynamic parameters might be the same page as another URL with different parameters. For that reason, we recommend using fewer parameters if possible. Typically, URLs with 1-2 parameters are more easily crawlable than those with many parameters.

I have noticed this on my site!! only three PHPnuke pages are linked and all my other web format is picked up! (SWF, REAL-HTML, ETC)

I have even emailed Google help!!

They say!

Quote:

Consider creating static copies of dynamic pages. Although the Google index includes dynamic pages, they comprise a small portion of our index.
If you suspect that your dynamically generated pages (such as URLs containing question marks) are causing problems for our crawler, you might create static copies of these pages. If you do, don't forget to add the dynamic pages to your robots.txt file to prevent us from treating them as duplicates.

So does this mean the address or file? or both?

Quote:

Don't create multiple copies of a page under different URLs. Many sites offer text-only or printer-friendly versions of pages that contain the same content as the corresponding graphic-rich pages. In order to ensure that your preferred page is included in our search results, you'll need to block duplicates from our spiders using a robots.txt file.

If the crawler is good as Google says it would try to pick up dynamic address still with the html file aswell!!

I have used the robot.tt to stop this now:

Code:

User-agent: Mediapartners-Google*
Disallow: account.html
Disallow: account-edituser.html
Disallow: account-logout.html
Disallow: modules.php?name*$
Disallow: admin.php
Disallow: /admin/
Disallow: /images/
Disallow: /includes/
Disallow: /themes/
Disallow: /blocks/
Disallow: /modules/
Disallow: /language/

User-agent: *
Disallow: account.html
Disallow: account-edituser.html
Disallow: account-logout.html
Disallow: modules.php?name*$
Disallow: admin.php
Disallow: /admin/
Disallow: /images/
Disallow: /includes/
Disallow: /themes/
Disallow: /blocks/
Disallow: /modules/
Disallow: /language/

User-agent: Googlebot*
Disallow: account.html
Disallow: account-edituser.html
Disallow: account-logout.html
Disallow: modules.php?name*$
Disallow: admin.php
Disallow: /admin/
Disallow: /images/
Disallow: /includes/
Disallow: /themes/
Disallow: /blocks/
Disallow: /modules/
Disallow: /language/

Lets see how it goes!!

Site Admin Joined: Aug 17, 2003 Posts: 12397

Well you could look into some kind of caching system. Have something on your server that takes a static snapshot of your site, and then serve that HTML as your site. But then I think you'll lose all the dynamic features.
At that rate, you might as well not use phpNuke.

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

something like "jpcache"? or something more static!!??

Do think hi-jacking the urls with real-URL's then when Google crawls it and supplies it on to directory swap them back to the phpnuke sites?

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

Is it good practice to add blank html files corresponding to important html file links (IE. news.html, topics.html, etc...) as they wont be picked up from the server but might give Google some reassurance that there is a file there...or just save the page and name the link appropriately!!

I am testing this at the moment with both, I’ll let people know how it works out!!!

Wink

Site Admin Joined: Aug 17, 2003 Posts: 12397

I don't think it would matter. I don't think Google can actually detect whether there is an .html file physically on your server. All they see is whatever content is returned by your web server.. it can be an Apache rewritten page or something else

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

Quote:

Consider creating static copies of dynamic pages. Although the Google index includes dynamic pages, they comprise a small portion of our index.
If you suspect that your dynamically generated pages (such as URLs containing question marks) are causing problems for our crawler, you might create static copies of these pages. If you do, don't forget to add the dynamic pages to your robots.txt file to prevent us from treating them as duplicates.

So why say this then?

Maybe they have made the move to real-html as "better content" for there BOT after Google saying they dont like any dynamic pages!! two clicks should be all it takes for Google?

Anyway testing four servers, why did they pick real-html over phpnuke on all of them (except for sub-domain or domain names)?

As they say they will only at the moment cache about 8million, maybe this is a method of cutting it down!!!! Question

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Or is it better to just catch the site with a module?

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

or could all my problems be with the theme or layout of the site?

Site Admin Joined: Aug 17, 2003 Posts: 12397

Dynamic pages would have content that changes.. anything like the news scripts, forums, and so forth. That is what Google does not index well. It is saying that static webpages do better... obviously because the content does not change all the time.

If you want a static site, don't use phpNuke

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

Are you sure about that? They told me an updated site is a better one!!!! And pages that aren't are removed after awhile to free up webpage catches??

They wont say anything coz it will “compromise there directory BOT”.

Mmmmmm Could we have got it all wrong???

They say they don’t want to crash there BOTs with websites like ours (TOO MANY LINKS, maybe the address link was just one thing and NOW REAL-HTML is now the other…?

And no I don’t want to use something else because PHP_Nuke is okay!! But this problem might force me!!! If PHP-Nuke in the future can’t sort this out! PHP-Nuke is going to DIE.

OR could we create use the Google tap to convert the html into sub-domains that Google will pick up!!

You must have some ideas or are u using them yourself?? I noticed on your site u don’t use html links? Why?

Cheers again… and please note I do love PHP-Nuke, I just don’t like GoogleBOT.

P.s. I know I'm coming out with loads of ideas not facts but who has the facts??? Unless you bribe Google CEO.

Sergeant Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 133

Looking around on the internet using"GOOGLE" I found this!!!!

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15132