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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well sessions are used in phpbb forums as of right now so things will break in that module eg: people will be logging in over and over, wont be able to view new posts, double postings.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Intel \ P4 Xeon \ 2.8Ghz

I have found Intel boards robust but not as fast as asus with the same reliabily...but wouldnt piont a fingure in this direction

Fujitsu \ 73GB:SCSI:Ultra320 X's -3

Definately NOT a fan of fujitsu , seagate far more reliable and faster
Dont believe the prob wouyld be the speed, but when was the last time u checked hds for bad sectors and file structure...I have just spent the last 2 nights on site replacing fujitsu hds in a large server because of bad sectors...was lucky data more or less intact but some of the OS sytem files where starting to corrupt and causing a few minor errors and slowing the server down quite a bit.

Hynix \ DDR 266 ECC \ 2GB (upgraded and added 1gb more)
Definately not a hynix fan either...replaced quite a few hynix sticks over the yrs both sd and ddr...Some would say only way to go is Crucial ..it is expenive and top of the line....I prefer Infinion ....have never replace a stick of infineon, gives good performance and reliablity, thu doesnt clock as well as crucial (but we arnt looking at o/clocking here)
The basic symptoms you describe are similar to those in some of those machines with Hynix and Hitachi ram
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Another thing that helps (and which was causing huge load times on index.php but none after, similar to what you said) is disable reverse dns lookups in Apache.

If you do it, after you disable the rDNS there is a "bug" in the httpd.conf file that keeps it going even though you disabled it... it has been a while since I did it but it involves a <directory /> entry that has a duplicate word in it.

At any rate, if you are telling apache to not do rDNS on every new visitor, and you are receiving massive amounts of hits all at once (from a fark or slashdot), you are clearly going to reduce your load significantly.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Here is an small example of what I am talking about...
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These queries are when logged in as an admin AND a user at Your_Account page. Even CPGnuke's current page gives 40 queries when logged in as a user, let alone with admin logged in.
Main page has a total of 17 queries (no caching involve, still in progress) where CPGnuke is giving 37 queries. I guess it's not worth to switch over afterall and we did find some goodluck fixing "our" CMS (This line is for FreeBee)
Script Generation time is a little higher than what we are looking for but I am very possitive that we will cut it down to atleast match PHP-Nuke Platinum gen time.
This version will be coming out soon, I think a week or 2 so get ready people Wink.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Steptoe, swagster already sent me some information I asked about his site, would you be kind enough to do same so we can talk more about it?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

NPs m8 what do u need?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Your site's address, your PHP-Nuke version, if any specially add-ons you have installed in phpBB, if you point PHP-Nuke's point system and if you are using any tweaks to make your site run fast.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The site is low usage
www.kakariki.net
nuke 7.5, modded deep blue.
Attach mod, gallery, member info sort of moded and combining several mods, muddling my way thru, clock a clock calander mod, with clock from another block and a international time block put in, need code clean up bad, that i dont know how to do, rolling forums center block, etc
As i get time i do a bit more muddling thru, as far as coding big sites my experiance is NIL...the kike site is the only web site I have ever made!!
My comment re hardware is simply because of my experiance in that feild professionally.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dude, your top header image alone is 81KB!!! another 2 things that are slowing down your page is weather block and maybe because you are running your site from home. Also have you applies the patches from chatserv?
Attachment mod is one of the reason for a huge site to slow down, but that's not the case with your site, the tweks we are talking is for huge site where you have 200+ visitors any given time.
Are you using a windows machine to run your site?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

hey thanks for that stuff know about the header, the other stuff I sort of gessed nice to know thu...
Yeah combine that with my upload at 196k....and the hardware that there server has, an old celly 1100 out of spare parts laying around, with 512 sd ram.
The site was orginally to fill a bit of spare time a few months ago into having a play with a portal...The subject was immaterial, I could have choosen 1st generation Camaro (yep got an orginal 69 Z28 had for 35 yrs)
Roses (yep have a collection of 250 roses selected for their historical breeding significance) or restoration of Bradford Vans (middle of restoring 1 ground up myself)Or Kakariki parrots (as we breed those for consevation etc) it just happened that the kike subject sort of took off when GT went on. lol
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If someone would like to speedup their site using caching system with ease, I suggest you use Raven's Cache Lite Admin system available at http://ravenphpscripts.com
Add-on costs few bucks and WELL WORTH IT!

I am planning to start something similar sometime soon with JPCache system too but that will be a while before you guys will see it.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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If someone would like to speedup their site using caching system with ease, I suggest you use Raven's Cache Lite Admin system available at http://ravenphpscripts.com
Add-on costs few bucks and WELL WORTH IT!


from what I've seen, the cache systems only cache the blocks. since I've removed all dynamic blocks and use static HTML for the blocks, I don't think I can use this, however, it should be valuable to many!


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Well sessions are used in phpbb forums as of right now so things will break in that module eg: people will be logging in over and over, wont be able to view new posts, double postings.


Of all the changes I've done, removing the 'nuke_sessions' table (I disabled it via a name change / didn't actually delete it) seems to be the #1 most effective change (the wget process on the index.php page was also killer). the absense of 'nuke_sessions' hasn't impared the ability for users to remain logged in or use the PM system which runs on the phpBB forum system. --note: I run my forums on a different server, so maybe my user experience is skewed. While I now fly blind knowing how many users are online, the server processes have dropped to 2 or 3 mysql instances ('top' processes viewed via putty). HTML for the first time is the choke point, however, I have been able to increase page views this week and can sustain page loads < 1.0 with over 6000 visitors online at the same time.

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steptoe, thanks for the advice on hardware. I'll look into some of those suggestions. The reverse dns comment sounds interesting.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes as I told you in PM that it worked for you because you do not use PHPbb port for PHP-Nuke, so it's all good for you to remove that table.
I don't know how exactly are you using HTML on the first page but it's sure saving you a lot of queries.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Looking for some help with my site, www.opieanthony.net

i'm on a 3ghz server with 1gb of ram (linux) that is shared but i'm the only site that gets much traffic at all.

the other day my site got hit pretty quick with around 200 users. right before or around 200 the site wouldn't even respond anymore. i know i have a pretty graphic intense theme and run nuke platinum which has a good amount of addons installed (although i've gotten rid of a lot of them) but i'm not sure if my problem is server side or nuke side.

any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello diabluntd,
Are you on a shared server or your own dedicated server?
If you are on shared, it's time for you to get your own dedicated server.

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