Military Visits

Nuke Soldier Joined: Jul 01, 2003 Posts: 13

My website is www.huntspot.com.

I have had alot of visits from military ip addresses and was wondering if this is happening to other nuke sites. My site is addressed to hunters, and maby there are alot of hunters in the military community, but it seems like I am seeing alot of visits from various military ip addresses. I haven't been logging them, but just see them fairly regularly in the who is online module when I check in on the site.

My most recent visitor (currently online) is listed at the host name gate3.quantico.usmc.mil and a ARIN search of the ip lists DoD Network Information Center.

I though it was strange to see alot of military addresses looking at my site, but when I saw "Quantico" and "DOD", it made me a little paraniod. I was just wondering if anybody else out there has seen alot of military visits.

Lieutenant Joined: Jan 23, 2003 Posts: 258 Location: USA

In all seriousness, your site has probably been flagged because of its affiliation with weapons. That or THE MAN is out to get you... Smile

Lieutenant Joined: May 29, 2003 Posts: 231

The military is comprised of a cross-section of society. Many come from rural areas as well as the suburbs and inner cities. They have varied interests in hunting, fishing, camping, and other areas. What you are seeing is simply people goofing off while at work.

When I was in the military, we didn't have time to play around on the net. The guys getting shot at and killed over in hostile areas like Iraq don't have time to do it. I get very irritated when I see someone sitting stateside doing this.

Our tax money pays for these people's salaries plus the computers and internet connections. They should be focused on protecting our country and other important mission areas not fooling around for their own enjoyment. That is what their off-time is for. If I see military or DoD IPs on my sites, I report them to the DoD IG ( mailto:hotline@dodig.osd.mil or http://www.dodig.osd.mil/HOTLINE/fwacompl.htm ) to investigate and take care of their own. Considering our elected officials dramatically increased the DoD budget to include the military (read more of OUR tax money is going to them), it would behoove you to start reporting these loafers. For the most part, they are deadwood anyway and it would help get rid of them.

Lieutenant Joined: Jan 23, 2003 Posts: 258 Location: USA

Tell us Mike... Airforce or Army? With all your whining and threats about being a tatle tale it had to one of those two... Real good by the way... Making a blanket statement that you'll report visitors to your site... You were in the Army... I can feel it! Or better yet you were prob a wanna-be that needed to pay off a college loan... Piss off...

PS... Us guys in the Military pay taxes too... Get back on the short bus and take your left wing friends with you.

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:57 pm

Jimmy, Mike is correct. Im ex-Navy. Its true many people can visit sites using Fed PCs to surf. Its also true that the FBI is monitoring this and I applaud them. Being in the IT community, I realize how many can create bogus identities to appear as if they are DoD personnel. By reporting "Suspicious" visitors, youve done your duty, let the feds weed them out. Im not saying to report ALL DoD, but if you got one looking at C4 plastique builds time after time, then by all means, report him.

Sharlein, you beat me out. I was in 84-90. So you get the crown of being the old fart around here now. lol j/k

Lieutenant Joined: Jan 23, 2003 Posts: 258 Location: USA

Let me say this... I'm in the Navy... Have been for 11 years, and I'm well qualified to do what I do... Blah Blah Blah... The fact is that paranoid attempts at reporting "visitation" fills the system with crap. Mike made it sound like he was going to dial 911 everytime he answered a packet request from a DoD POP or Firewall. Every single report has to be investigated. If you are reporting suspect activity, then I applaud you, if you're raising the flag because you're board or pissed off at the DoD then you really should focus your energies elsewhere. It's not your right to dictate policy... I've got the watch.

I don't get the feeling that Mike was speaking in terms of good faith. Everyone should do their part to report anything unfamiliar, BUT, don't lash out at those of us who still serve because you believe for whatever reason you know best.

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 7:51 pm

Right I agree with both of you regarding this. I would only condone a situation in what I stated earlier. I definitely do not believe in taking ANYTHING away from our buds overseas, but I do stress that as a webmaster, its your duty to maintain and monitor with vigilance "suspicious" only in the interest of the same very people as well as ourselves. So Im riding the fence a little here. If I see a IRaqed None IP, Im gonna watch it closely. But if I see a DoD, I will check it, but not microscope it unless i see a pattern of suspicion.

Shar, I for one appreciate your sacrafice and salute you. I missed all combat conflicts but always show my respect for my fellow vets who have.

Jim, keep up the good work, Im behind you guys and missing it. Where you based at? Whats your rate? Did time in Orlando, Pensi, Coronado, Norfolk, Keflavik, Trondheim and Hammerfest.

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:14 am

I will tell you that I am a civilian contractor for the military working at a network operations center. Though I am usually busy most of the day at work, I do pop in from time to time to see what is going on with my fellow nukers, I fail to see what is wrong with that. I get paid to take action on mission critical applications, servers and network devices, notice trends, report suspicious traffic, suspicious internal activity, and everything else in between. If and when none of that is going on at the work place (rare, but it does happen) what is wrong with popping by the site to visit the community. Im part of a 24/7/365 team, so please do imagine how busy you would be on a weekend when you have the 4pm - 12am shift and only have recieved 2 phone calls for an 8 hour period.

Sure its your tax dollars, well to be honest, my tax bracket aint too pretty either. I agree if somone is a bag of crap, does no work, and only goes to work to surf the net, then they have problems, their supervisors and managers arent doing their jobs, and they are all part of that infamous "10%". On the other hand, how can you be so sure that the surfer is automatically up to no good just because you see a DOD FQDN. How do you know its not some geekie techie who is trying to put up an intranet nuke-site as a local CMS to help increase the speed and efficiency of content management for the team. Of course, at the same time, showing all those big-app loving coworkers that open source rules..

Nuke Soldier Joined: Jul 01, 2003 Posts: 13

I have to admit, I'm a little embarrassed after reading this thread. I started it, and it seems like everybody that responded is in the military. I've never been in the armed forces, but my father and grandfather were.

My biggest interest was in the monitoring of my site. I was wondering if the military (or FBI considering one of the ips was listed at quantico) monitors most of the sites out there with some type of bot or something, was "tagging" my site for inspection because of the hunting/firearms relation, or if it was just people looking around. I was wondering if it is a common occurance for everybody, or just a "select" few. I heard they were proactively working on intelligence after 911, and I thought maby the y were monitoring certain types of sites - maby firearms, maby forums, chat rooms, etc. My site has a little of each. I wanted to know if other nuke sites out there have seen stuff like that. I don't even really mind if they are scanning my site. I would report anything that looked suspecious anyway, just really a matter of interest.

I figure alot of military personel out there are hunters too (maby just my own prejudice thinking many are southern gun owners like myself), and I welcome visits from any hunters out there that have an interest in my site. I wouldn't report anybody (unless they posted something suspecious on my site, but that goes for anybody, not just military). I don't know if they are taking a break, are on some kind of machine in a break room or whatever. As for my opinion, I'm not in the military, but I don't care if someone risking their life for my country is taking a 15 minute break on my tax dollar to look at my site. My grandfather went through bataan in WWII, and after hearing what he went through, I have a great respect for the military and the people in it, and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. It's just not in my nature to "rat" them out anyway.

Thank you all for your service in the military. I appreciate what you have given for the rest of us.