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What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! |
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Posted on Saturday, October 01 @ 05:45:26 CEST by VinDSL |
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by webshark (lalala@lmao.com) on Saturday, October 01 @ 06:16:56 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://poolskill.com | | do we need a poll for this ? there is only one answer its security |
Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by NukeEvangelist on Saturday, October 01 @ 06:44:24 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | good day webshark
thanks for jumin in - and many thanks for sharing the ideas! we need your ideas and your input!!!
the more the better!
thx
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by Xyberian (fake@earth.unverse) on Saturday, October 01 @ 13:40:03 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.nukekorea.net | ha ha. webshark.
Your critics is so so simple but brutally cynical. |
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by NukeEvangelist on Saturday, October 01 @ 06:44:46 CEST
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good day webshark
thanks for jumin in - and many thanks for sharing the ideas! we need your ideas and your input!!!
the more the better! -
thx
ne |
Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by Steptoe on Saturday, October 01 @ 14:20:50 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.kakarki.net | The survey, like most surveys ask all the wrong questions.
ie New modules Should be which modules
To produce a good product (any) hast to have what the customer needs not what they dont need.
I read cynical comments and rivalery between coders..I dont take sides...
From an outsiders piont of view a release needs the chatsev patches...for newbies and those with modules this is a pain in the butt.
Looking at nuke sites of all sorts, things like approve membership, attach mod, Sentinal, galleries, GT rewrite,br in news, better robots.txt, dynamic meta tags.
When installing it should have opitions to run only those modules that the users wish, and put stuff like encicloprea on the option to install list.
The question of more themes...themes only fill out the install, and its only 'pot luck' if the end user likes what is there...excesive bloat...one can use default deep blue (and pre match in the forum) then with a readme and notes in nuke files as to how to change background colours for a pic...better still, use pics that already are in css, the user just changes them.
One just has to go thru forums here, ravens, karakas see what ppl ask for, have problems with.
If an attutude by coders was taken more from the customers needs than fancy code, a realy great release would be made. Coders , with all due respect make great coders, but bloody useless marketers, and good marketers make even worse coders.
If u produce something from the results of this faulty survey, v.8 will be no better than any of the last 3 or 4 releases. |
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by NukeEvangelist on Saturday, October 01 @ 15:37:54 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | hi Steptoe,
thx for stepping up the plate. you point out very much interesting and good things. i wich that there would be a forum or a tracker where the thiings could be talks further.
all the best to you
nukeEvangelist |
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by edogs on Saturday, October 01 @ 16:13:00 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.dogsempire.com | Ok, we'll put our word here too.
The only thing php-nuke needs is professional team of programmers.
All the rest will be automatically applied.
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by NukeEvangelist on Saturday, October 01 @ 17:23:28 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | g day edogs,
great to hear from you: i look forward to see your survey-module, and the forum-app. /(the multi-feed app that pulls the postings from several forums)
- look forward to see your site up n running again
regards
nukeevangelist
btw: thx for posting your opinion. - |
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by edogs on Sunday, October 02 @ 03:37:10 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.dogsempire.com | Thanks for reminding about our promiss:-) It's coming soon.
Regarding our opinion, we feel we must explain.
There are a lot of things in nuke which need to be rewriten, they just don't follow basic rules for modern situation. Part of things are comes from older versions, and since php-nuke latest version already incompatible with new versions in most part we don't see the sense to keep it inside the code.
Security...
Latest patches, and basically patches at all, they comes from big code. Big code - long time not reviewed - big problems.
And more other, 3rd party bad code. Remember guys, there are no serious security holes in php-nuke latest version itself. PHPBB security holes crashed a lot of sites on php-nuke, but why hell all talking that this is php-nuke holes? Even best CMS would never be able to close all possible security holes in 3rd party modules.
So that do we have? Problems to phpnuke mostly comes from old code inside, from bad 3rd party modules, from absense of documentation for programmers.
What needed to fixt it? Easy, remove old code, make more natural born modules (to avoid 3rd party modules as much as possible), write a good documentation to have one standart.
BUT:-) Ok. We never mentioned to tell this. But, how FB earns money? Correct. With releases of new version there "bugfixes, patches". So that will happend with income if he will fix it all?:-) |
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Re: mille grazie - mille grazie (Score: 1)
by NukeEvangelist on Sunday, October 02 @ 17:20:02 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | hi edogs,
many many thanks for your ideas. I am happy to see such things. It makes me glad to see that you have ideas, suggestions and plans.
so - what could be the next step to go a bit forward? only one little step!?
cheers
- nukeevangelist
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Re: mille grazie - mille grazie (Score: 1)
by edogs on Sunday, October 02 @ 17:57:34 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.dogsempire.com | Not sure about step:-)
Remember you had asked us about our intentions to port phphotels or something like this?
Our answer were... porting other mod like a constant hunting. You porting... new version... porting again... new bugfix... porting again... and constant tracking for news. Too resposible. Too much time to waste.
Until FB won't start keep all the community informed about his plans, about his future, about his structure and API, it's enough hard to make something.
Le'ts image for a bit. 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 7.6, 7.8, 7.9 versions... all are differ. Anyone who build something for any of these can't be sure that it'll work in future versions. If to make something with core... it's even more hard. And it's impossible to keep 100% compatibility with all 7.x versions just because they are incompatible even between themselves.
We think if the Community can press FB :-) lol :-) to publish officially things which he will promiss to keep in future releases, API and etc there are will be much more reasons to participate. |
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Re: mille grazie - mille grazie (Score: 1)
by spottedhog on Sunday, October 02 @ 21:08:18 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.smf-nuke.com | Fully agree with edogs here.... It is pure BS to have to make a so many versions of one module to be working with all of the PHP Nuke versions.
Like edogs was hinting, the true issue is whether or not FB will conform to the rest of the world or still choose to put out one or two new features every two months, and call it a new version.... that is of course not backwards compatible.
At some point someone has to say, "enough is enough". We should be asking ourselves this question.... and only then can progress be made for any kind of positive future. |
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by Evaders99 on Saturday, October 01 @ 21:19:59 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.swrebellion.com | It would be more fixes, more security, more organization.
If code was properly written and patches maintained (using CVS or otherwise), then we'd see much better system. No new features until the old ones are properly patched and tested |
Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by spottedhog on Sunday, October 02 @ 21:16:43 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.smf-nuke.com | I agree.... The issue really is if FB is ready to colloborate or if he still chooses to be a solo ride. That in itself will determine the future of phpnuke.... Why have new features when teams of coders are trying to undue past issues?
But as long as new features = new release = money to buy latest and greatest.... then the nuke community will forever be going in circles.... every 2 months.... like clockwork. New Nuke version, new patches, module creators scramble to make modifications.... And people like Evaders tries to sort it out, both with patches and here in the Forums.
When is enough is enough? |
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by NukeEvangelist on Sunday, October 02 @ 17:18:43 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | hi all
- thanks for the great number of responses. I am happy to see such things. It makes me glad to see that you have ideas, suggestions and plans.
so - what could be the next step to go a bit forward? only one little step!?
cheers
- nukeevangelist
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by webshark (lalala@lmao.com) on Sunday, October 02 @ 22:29:34 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://poolskill.com | ''In order to create an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe''
NO, NE
In order to create an apple pie from scratch, you must first use good apples
so whom eat it can think its delicous but if you use rotten apples when create it i wouldnt eat it next time
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Re: What do you expect from future PHPNuke-version - add your ideas now! (Score: 1)
by NukeEvangelist on Monday, October 03 @ 02:41:06 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | hey webshark
thx for the reply. the apple-pie example is good enough to show how difficult iti is to build up phpnuke again from scratch,
-and btw. webshark you are right with your ideas to the apple-pie!!
webshark - all the best to you !!!
the phpnuke-copmmunitiy is great - it is one of the best experiences in the internet, i ever made
cheers
- nukeevangelist
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